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KoT
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Nov 2005, 03:27
Pioneer
Post 30 Nov 2005, 04:50
I compare Mig-25 to F-15 because there is almost nothing else to compare. Mig-25 is not a really great fighter, you are right, but there is not much to chose from for Iraquies.

Roy, Mig-29's are better then F-15's, but not for the reasons of electronics. They have advantages such as higher angle of attack, probably speed, etc. Comparing Mig-29 with only a gun vs an F-15 with only a gun, and equal leve piltots (most important), Mig has a clear advantage.
Playa Playa
MoX
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 27 Feb 2005, 14:24
Pioneer
Post 30 Nov 2005, 08:23
[quote=KoT]Comparing Mig-29 with only a gun vs an F-15 with only a gun, and equal leve piltots (most important), Mig has a clear advantage.[/quote]

I agree with you, but, to me, a good aviation is founded on multiple points :

- Good planes ( good range, good speed, good maniaility ...)
- Good weapons ( it's useless to have a fifth generetion fighter with old AA missiles ...)
- Good technician, Fighter need a lot of reparations and Air Force have to take care of them
- Good pilots, because (and that is my opinion about UAV is that they are useless for the moment, because even a real powerfull computer isn't as clever as a good pilot ) experience and hours of flight is really important. You can have fighter and missiles, and air base with no pilots ! For exemple, most of african country use mercenaries pilot ( Ukrainian or bielarussian pilots). The cost of formation of a pilot is estimated in millions.
- Good radar support, you can't shot down a target without seeing it !
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 05 Nov 2005, 10:10
Pioneer
Post 30 Nov 2005, 20:12
You cannot compare MiG-29 with F-15,because they were contructed to serve different roles,the F-15 as an air-superiority fighter,and the MiG-29 as a close combat fighter.You can compare MiG-29 with F-16,yes,but F-15 is uncomparable to it.
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KoT
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Nov 2005, 03:27
Pioneer
Post 02 Dec 2005, 01:27
Well, its pretty much what happened - F-15's went against Mig-25's and 29s. The only reason I think Americans won is because of pilots.
Playa Playa
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 20 Feb 2010, 11:57
Resident Admiral
Post 30 Apr 2010, 11:16
As ever the Us propaganda enlareged their victories, hidding the losses.

Iraqui air forced did many attacks against the Us forces helping to stop the enemy advancing..

17Jan91 96FS MiG-25PDS R-40RD F/A-18C AA400 VFA-83/USN CONFIRMED BY US SOURCES
17Jan91 63FS MiG-23ML R-60 F-111F USAF
17Jan91 4 or 5FS MiG-29 R-27R B-52G USAF
17Jan91 4 or 5FS MiG-29 R-60MK F-111F USAF
17Jan91 4 or 5FS MiG-29A R-60MK Tornado IDS Italian Air Force
As italian i remember well how the two pilots captured said that they didn't know WHAT shot them down
18Jan91 4 or 5FS MiG-29A R-60MK Tornado GR.Mk.1 27Sqn/RAF
29Jan91 96FS MiG-25PD R-40RD + R-40TD F-15C USAF

16Jan93 96FS MiG-25PD Intercepted F-15E USAF not shot down
23Dec02 96FS MiG-25PD R-60 or R-40T/R RQ-1A Predator USAF CONFIRMED BY THE USAF

Us covered their losses as accident or SAM.
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