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Hitlers true motive

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Sep 2004, 16:21
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Post 26 Aug 2005, 13:52
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It is all excuses, part of a mind war. Do you know how much would costs that "deportation"? And how much german economy had from eliminating of jews(e.g. "final solution")?
So all this "deportation" its bluff, faked promises & excuses.

I'm not sure about that; the Nazis may have been serious about the Madagascar plan, at least initially.

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Stalin don't builded death camps for jews - that's fact. Hitler destroyed ~5 000 000 of jews that's fact too. Deportation to madagascar - fantasy.

I never claimed that Stalin built death camps for Jews - he was actually trying to do them a favour by giving them their own homeland within the Soviet Union, if they wanted to go there. No-one was going to deport them there against their will.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 16 Apr 2005, 09:27
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Post 26 Aug 2005, 15:12
I mean that Stalin & Hitler had different views on "jew's question" & phrases like
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It's the same idea as Stalin's proposed 'homeland' for the USSR's Jews at Birobidzhan

is not acceptable.


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the Nazis may have been serious about the Madagascar plan, at least initially.

Arguments?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 02 Sep 2004, 17:54
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Post 26 Aug 2005, 17:30
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Blonde hair?
Poor hitler, he always thought he was an ideal German. Now he turns in his grave having found out that his hair was the wrong color. Smile


Hitler knew he was not perfect. He was very self conscious of both his background and appearance.
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Post 26 Aug 2005, 18:17
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Hitler knew he was not perfect. He was very self conscious of both his background and appearance.

In other words, he suffered from what Nietzsche called ressentiment. Nietzsche would probably have dismissed Hitler as an obvious example of what an 'uebermensch' is not.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 16 Dec 2004, 21:30
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Post 26 Aug 2005, 18:32
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It is all excuses, part of a mind war. Do you know how much would costs that "deportation"? And how much german economy had from eliminating of jews(e.g. "final solution")?

Death camps were not viable before world war. Madagaskar was.

Stop being an ass and broaden your vision.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 27 Sep 2004, 23:23
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Post 26 Aug 2005, 21:10
I believe all of his motives are in Mein Kampf.
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Post 26 Aug 2005, 21:14
That's true-he makes very clear that the British and Italians are Germany's natural allies, that the countries east of Germany, such as Poles and Slavs, are inferior, etc., etc., that Germany needs colonization to further expantiate the Aryan race, etc., etc.

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Post 26 Aug 2005, 21:25
Yeah, it's all pretty much in 'Mein Kampf'. You can't say that Adolf hid his true motives behind a deceptively humanitarian PR front.
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Post 26 Aug 2005, 21:42
I find it nice and funny how the United States always wanted to intervene with things that are a threat to the world, but this-they had it right in front of them, and they did not want to do anything about it.

-FK
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Jun 2005, 23:39
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Post 27 Aug 2005, 03:02
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Madagaskar


Was that how it was spelt back then (with a K) or are you all spelling it wrongly?
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Post 27 Aug 2005, 08:50
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Blonde hair?
Poor hitler, he always thought he was an ideal German. Now he turns in his grave having found out that his hair was the wrong color.


This was debated before and according to the Nazi ideology, people fall into 3 groups of races: The blonde hair and blue eye which were the Aryan race, the followers of the aryan races( which have brown hair) and the inferior race(jews ect.).

Hitler never claimed he was Aryan himself, but he did claim he was a follower of the Aryan race.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 21 Nov 2004, 20:31
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Post 28 Aug 2005, 09:10
Not all countries and not all people, even if they were slavs.

Over 1000000 Soviets joined Wehrmacht. Amongst them was General Andrei Vlasov. Vlasov was one of the Soviet Generals responsible for the German defeat near Moscow in December 1941. Six months later he was serving in the ranks of his former enemy.

First a hero then a defector
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Post 28 Aug 2005, 09:30
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Not all countries and not all people, even if they were slavs.

It's details - we talk about general idea here.

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Over 1000000 Soviets joined Wehrmacht.


Hear something about "fifth columns" & how this "columns" ended? I doubt.

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Vlasov was one of the Soviet Generals responsible for the German defeat near Moscow in December 1941.

There was 19 generals, but responsible for defeating germans was soviet soldier.

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First a hero then a defector

4 of 5 soviet soldiers under Moscow was a heroes, none of them was defectors.
& Vlasov was a traitor - not defector, know difference? Huh?

Carius it seems that your posts changes pretty faster.
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Post 28 Aug 2005, 13:10
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Carius it seems that your posts changes pretty faster.


And that is relevant?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Jun 2005, 23:41
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Post 06 Sep 2005, 09:49
There's a Jewish joke about Aryans.

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Q. What is an Aryan?
A. Blonde like Hitler, athletic like Goebbels and slim like Guerring.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Nov 2005, 08:18
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Post 30 Jan 2006, 02:03
Hitler once said: "Everything I do is aimed against Russia! Everything!"

This was said (if I am not mistaken) in a meeting where one of his generals (or someone similar) was showing him the model of a train carriage that would be used to transport German troops to Russia secretly.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Sep 2006, 22:32
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Post 11 Sep 2006, 20:25
The truth is that Hitler was just a figurehead. He is the great devil in the way that Mr. Spock from Star Trek fame is the greatest scientist in the universe.

To quote from Teddy Roosevelt, "Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people." From <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/theodorero169571.html>

Anyway, the new thing that these guys brought to the world was a program of multiple parallel genocides. They were the first in history to propose removing several branches from the human genetic tree at the same time. This makes them unique.

Now, before going further, I must ask. Red pill or blue pill? If you choose red then there will be no going back.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 20 Dec 2005, 04:55
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Post 13 Sep 2006, 02:26
I wonder what the Middle East would be like if they created a jewish state on Madagascar instead of Palestine.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Jun 2005, 23:41
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Post 13 Sep 2006, 06:45
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I wonder what the Middle East would be like if they created a jewish state on Madagascar instead of Palestine.


Good question. Even better question; what would Madagascar be like if they created a jewish state on Madagascar instead of Palestine? Would we have witnessed a succession of Jewish-Malagasy Wars?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 19 Aug 2006, 17:42
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Post 13 Sep 2006, 08:06
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Would we have witnessed a succession of Jewish-Malagasy Wars?


for some reason mozambique comes to mind.....
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