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Italians in WWII

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Post 01 Oct 2005, 10:54
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P-40 tank


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P26/40 was armed with 75mm gun and was the only Italian tank to have sloped armor. The max armor was 60mm (without counting slope).
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Post 03 Oct 2005, 21:36
The tragic end of battleship Roma.

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Vittorio Veneto-class battleship Roma was newest and most powerful ship of Regia Marina, the Italian Navy. On September 9. 1943, one day after Italian surrender, she was en route to Malta with the intention of surrendering, when she sank after being hit by German FritzX FX-1400 anti-ship missiles launched from Dornier 217 bomber.

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FritzX FX-1400.

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Missile has hit Roma. It passed trough the ship's entire hull before exploding in sea.

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Roma has been hit by another missile. This one exploded in the forward store of 380mm shells. A column of flames and smoke rose for a thousand meters. The 380mm turret number 2 (1500 tons) along with all of its occupants and the ship's command tower were projected aloft. Roma began to list to the right side

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In 22 minutes, Roma turned upside-down, broke into two and sank, taking
1253 men with her.

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Admiral Carlo Bergamini, Commander in Chief of Italian Battle Fleet and his general staff were among the dead.
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Post 04 Oct 2005, 12:59
Wow, I didnt know Germany diid any war actions against Italy when it surendered, but it was to good ship for allies to capture I guess from germans point.
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Post 05 Oct 2005, 02:29
hmmn.. thats too bad but a dead fascist is a good fascist....
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Post 05 Oct 2005, 05:20
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hmmn.. thats too bad but a dead fascist is a good fascist....


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Post 05 Oct 2005, 12:59
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hmmn.. thats too bad but a dead fascist is a good fascist....


1. just because the goverment was fascist doesen't mean that the people are fascist

2. Italy surrendered 5 days after the Roma's sinking (Sept 8, 1943 - Italian surrendered; the Roma was sunk on the 3rd) fascist Italy was practicaly over.
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Post 05 Oct 2005, 13:48
Correction. Roma was sunk on September 9th, one day after Italian surrender.
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Post 05 Oct 2005, 21:37
Im sure some of the people on the boat were fascists. It seems like a waste of a good missle though, the Italians surrendered the boat and then the Germans sink it. the Germans could of used that missle on a British ship.
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Post 05 Oct 2005, 22:23
But british could have used that boat againt germans, no?
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Post 05 Oct 2005, 23:52
Why would they of needed too? They had the biggest navy at the time.
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Post 06 Oct 2005, 00:18
During the War, every ship was precious. The German U-boats had wreaked havoc on British shipping.
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Post 06 Oct 2005, 01:34
Another factor concerning the use of the Roma by the Royal Navy is that by 1943 many of our battleships had seen far better days (either through enemy action, or wartime wear and tear) and the Roma would have been more use than not.
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Post 19 Oct 2005, 16:53
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Campini Caproni CC.2. The plane flew in August 1940 and was the second jet
plane that succesfully flew.
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Post 19 Oct 2005, 18:40
NICE!!.....i never knew the italians were working on jets as well!
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Post 20 Oct 2005, 17:05
Most major powers were working on aircraft that were not dependent on piston engines. The trick was to be able to mass produce them.
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Post 21 Oct 2005, 02:48
dont you just love the early jets. No gimmicks. Body. Wings. that's it.
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Post 23 Oct 2005, 12:22
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The trick was to be able to mass produce them.


Campini Caproni CC.2. was more of an test plane. Italians were not planning to produce it in large numbers.
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Post 03 Nov 2005, 21:12
The Italian submarine fleet achieved quite considerable succes during the war, sinking some 900000 tons of ships.

Submarine Pietro Micca.

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Submarine Ciro Menotti.

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Submarine Rubino.

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Post 06 Mar 2006, 22:31
Cannone da 150/35, Italian 150mm heavy artillery gun.

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Italian troops parading.

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Bersaglieri infantry in defensive position in North Africa.

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Semovente da 75/46 assault gun.

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Post 07 Mar 2006, 15:08
Paratroopers of Folgore airborne division.

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Semovente da 105/25 assault gun.

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Semovente da 90/53 tank destroyer.

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Battleship Caio Duilio.

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M13/40 tank.

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