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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 28 Mar 2012, 04:42
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Post 28 Mar 2012, 04:49
what if in the future the gap between the rich and poor became so wide and the poor looked back through history and saw the communist regime and think "why don't we become communist?"
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Jun 2011, 08:37
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Post 28 Mar 2012, 16:14
I imagine we'd have a revolution and we'd live in interesting times.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 09 Mar 2012, 02:37
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Post 05 Apr 2012, 02:11
We are marching towards that reality. The problem is the anti-communist propaganda which still has a tremendous effect over people. Once people realize that they can live better under a socialist regime they will support a new revolution. I am starting to see some signs in some Europeans countries like Greece and Portugal. I am not 100% sure but a new socialist revolution in the future will most likely happen in some country of the Southern Europe. We just need to be a little more patient and never give up from the fight despite all the odds we must face.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 29 Jan 2012, 02:34
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Post 05 Apr 2012, 12:22
Right now, at least here in the United States, anti-communism is rampant.

However, Revolutions don't happen overnight. they are made based on external or internal conditions unique to their respective nation.

Russia faced a communist revolution after suffering unimaginable casualties in WWI, a war which it had no way to win from the beginning. The newly created Provisional Government didn't help much either after the February Revolution, which tried instead to continue the war, which only gained popular support for a socialist revolution and spelled doom for the provisional government.

Although conditions were already ripe for a socialist revolution from the start, WWI served as the tipping point into revolution. Russia possessed a landless peasantry and a small, yet poor working-class. Not a good combination for a Czar trying to hold onto power!

Concerning modern-day Greece, it has the potential to have a socialist revolution too. All of the conditions are there. It's not a question of if though, its a question of when.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 09 Mar 2012, 02:37
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Post 05 Apr 2012, 15:30
Sowjetunion wrote:
Right now, at least here in the United States, anti-communism is rampant.

However, Revolutions don't happen overnight. they are made based on external or internal conditions unique to their respective nation.

Russia faced a communist revolution after suffering unimaginable casualties in WWI, a war which it had no way to win from the beginning. The newly created Provisional Government didn't help much either after the February Revolution, which tried instead to continue the war, which only gained popular support for a socialist revolution and spelled doom for the provisional government.

Although conditions were already ripe for a socialist revolution from the start, WWI served as the tipping point into revolution. Russia possessed a landless peasantry and a small, yet poor working-class. Not a good combination for a Czar trying to hold onto power!

Concerning modern-day Greece, it has the potential to have a socialist revolution too. All of the conditions are there. It's not a question of if though, its a question of when.


Anti-communism in USA was always rampant. Now because of Obama is probably even more due to the conservatives strategy to link him to socialism which is wrong but a lot of people believe in that kind of propaganda. We just have to watch 5 minutes of Fox News.

As far as Greece is concerned, i don't think that is only Greece having the potential to have a socialist revolution, it's all the Mediterranean. Portugal, Italy and Spain are all facing the same type of crisis (called the debt crisis but i believe that is much more than a simple debt crisis) and they are all taking the same kind of measures which are rising the unemployment, impoverish the population and destroying the economy very roughly. The most concerning point is that we don't see a little sign of recovering and the crisis started in 2008. 4 years without a single sign of recovering tells me that this is more than just a debt crisis. If the crisis intensifies and the states go bankruptcy this may be the beginning of a new era and revolutions may start all over again.

We just need to be careful with the fascists (especially in the army) since the social democrats and the conservatives once they lost control of the situation (state bankruptcy, social chaos,etc) they will not hesitate in supporting them in order to avoid a socialist revolution like it happen in the past.
"If I could control Hollywood, I could control the world." -Joseph Stalin
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 27 Apr 2012, 17:05
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Post 02 May 2012, 22:45
Let me begin by saying I was born, raised and have spent 54 of my 56 years on this earth living in the USA, the other two in Canada.

With that said, Americans tend to be very plastic, fake and concerned with appearances rather than realities.

For instance, Americans claim in a super huge majority that they believe in the Judeo/Christian God, BUT, in significantly fewer numbers, do they actually attend any house of worship on a regular basis at all. Many have justified this by saying they don't "need" a building, fine, yet that is NOT what their Bible teaches them explicitly in either the OT or NT. Their Bible proscribes everything from getting drunk to divorce to homosexuality and premarital sex and we see the practical realities of modern day life in the USA. Hypocrisy is an appropriate term to apply here.

We see that a full 1/6th of the total US population is without any kind of health insurance coverage at any given point in time these days and yet the biggest fight we have had in recent years is over what turned out to be a very modest health care reform act and the reform actually benefited private insurance industry the most with the mandated coverage aspect of it.

We see that we are currently as a nation about $16 TRILLION dollars in debt and we think it is a good, progressive step in the right direction if we reduce our FUTURE DEFICIT SPENDING TO HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR. The real practical translation of this, WE WILL NOT raise taxes on ourselves to pay for OUR CURRENT CONSUMPTIONS and we WILL IMPOVERISH FUTURE GENERATIONS and not bat an eyelash while we do so. TOTAL AMERICAN HYPOCRISY AGAIN.

We will have a revolution, of some kind, in this country when no other nation or foreign entity will sell oil to us for US dollars or buy US Treasury notes and start demanding payment for the ones they already hold. What kind of revolution, who knows at this point.
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