I support the American war in Afghanistan

I find it rather sickening that anyone calling themselves Leftist today could even consider an Imperialist invasion progressive, evening compared to a group such as a Taliban. I've been called everything from an awful communist to a reactionary in my time here. I find it rather amusing and just a little bit hypocritical that most of the people in this thread who support the war are the same people who have given me these labels. I sincerely hope you either grow up or that none of you come to possess any sort of political power or influence in the future.

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I find it rather sickening that anyone calling themselves Leftist today could even consider an Imperialist invasion progressive, evening compared to a group such as a Taliban. I've been called everything from an awful communist to a reactionary in my time here. I find it rather amusing and just a little bit hypocritical that most of the people in this thread who support the war are the same people who have given me these labels. I sincerely hope you either grow up or that none of you come to possess any sort of political power or influence in the future.

Did I ever call you that? I hope I didn't as I don't like it when communists 'denounce' each other simply over differing opinions. It makes us seem like religious sects bickering and that is an image none of us want to project. As for your differing views, you could always try and demonstrate an argument against the positions you dislike on this thread.

Gred, It's not about differing opinions. It's about killing people. And your are objectively siding with our enemy when you support the American war in Afghanistan. There is a lot of differing opinions on Earth, but we can't discuss them all. Some of them have to be fought.

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Gred, It's not about differing opinions. It's about killing people. And your are objectively siding with our enemy when you support the American war in Afghanistan. There is a lot of differing opinions on Earth, but we can't discuss them all. Some of them have to be fought.

If it's about killing people then we all side with NATO as our taxes and financial support of NATO businesses (whom NATO taxes) pays for the war in Afghanistan. Objectively, we support the war in Afghanistan much more effectively than we subjectively oppose it. You can rant and rave about how you oppose the war until you are blue in the face, but it won't make much difference. Your taxes towards the war effort, on the other hand, will make a difference (at least in the short-term).

I think you are trying to clear yourself. But even if I participate in this by paying taxes, that is to say living in an imperialist country, which is right, I'm also trying to oppose it. And therefore, there is a big difference between you and me: you made the conscious choice of supporting US imperialism, while I try to oppose it with the best of my ability.
Moreover, I have no doubt that my action as a Communist, member of the Communist party and its youth organization, is much stronger than the taxes I pay.

Saying that by paying taxes you are supporting the war in Afghanistan is a ridiculous argument. It is not that people want to pay tax for such wars but if you do not the government will put you in prison.

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Saying that by paying taxes you are supporting the war in Afghanistan is a ridiculous argument. It is not that people want to pay tax for such wars but if you do not the government will put you in prison.

That and we do not choose to live in imperialist countries. It's just an accident of birth. Some of us feel the need and find the money to leave, but not all. Some can't afford to while others feel they can make more difference in their country of birth.

Yes. It is not so easy to leave your country of citizenship.

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How did i know that it was removed? I though i had browser problems, it happens.
Last time my post was removed it was made clear to me, which you did here here but only after i posted the same message again.
I though moderators were supposed to inform people of deleted posts, not sneakily deleting stuff.

That's why I only warned you instead of asking for a card to be given. There was nothing sneaky about it. You know that one line posts which don't contribute to the discussion are not looked kindly upon here. Don't push you're luck.

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Saying that by paying taxes you are supporting the war in Afghanistan is a ridiculous argument. It is not that people want to pay tax for such wars but if you do not the government will put you in prison.

Oh I never said it was by choice, nor is it a monetary expression of opinion. I am merely pointing out that the bourgeoisie coerce the proletariat into finacially supporting imperialist wars regardless of their support or opposition to them. This way, this financial "support" is far more effective than any vocal opposition the proletariat may have.

I think that we need to remember that China is allied with the US in the WOT, and one of the reasons is because it buys Afghan oil. Before the war, neither the US nor China could touch the Afghan oil. Only the Taliban could as the oil fields are located in the southern 90% part of Afghanistan. So that's why the US invaded Afghanistan. What other reason would it have for invading a land locked country? And also, what NATO are doing by bombing Afghanistan is forcing the Taliban to use more advanced weaponry such as anti aircraft missiles that they didn't use in the civil war between 1992 to 2001. This results in more casualties on both sides, including civilians. In this civil war I say just screw both sides.

China are allies with the US on this front but China are also allies of Iran and Pakistan. It is suggested that both may possibly be supporting the Taliban. In this case what can China do?

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China are allies with the US on this front but China are also allies of Iran and Pakistan. It is suggested that both may possibly be supporting the Taliban. In this case what can China do?

China could just cut the alliance, and I don't think so because Pakistan is a major ally of the US and Iran supported the NA during the earlier war.