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To the Slanderers of Russia

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Nov 2005, 08:18
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Post 17 Sep 2008, 12:21
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'To Russia's Slanderers' is one of his most famous poems


And arguably, one of his worst. At the time it was even considered rather crave .
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Post 17 Sep 2008, 12:27
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And arguably, one of his worst. At the time it was even considered rather crave .

How can you not like this, Vitaliy?:

Так высылайте ж к нам, витии
Своих озлобленных сынов:
Есть место им в полях России,
Среди нечуждых им гробов.

Don't the hairs on the back of your neck rise up? Don't you feel like putting your Scythian bow on your back, leaping onto your horse and galloping across the steppes to trample the empires of the West under your horse's hooves?

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Fucк yeah! And I'm not even Russian.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Nov 2005, 08:18
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Post 17 Sep 2008, 13:05
Hey, I loved it - I wouldn't have spent all that effort stealing the translation if I didn't.


I'm just saying that his contemporaries considered it bad in terms of poetry.
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Post 17 Sep 2008, 13:16
Yeah, it's not really his best. Personally, I prefer Blok's 'The Scythians' for that sort of messianic Eurasianism. Now that's a kickass poem!
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Post 17 Sep 2008, 13:25
*Sigh* My three volumes of Pushkin are in the back of a 40ft shipping container, awaiting the completion of our house
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Nov 2007, 08:37
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Post 17 Sep 2008, 21:50
Погиб поэт невольник чести,
Пал оклеветанный молвой
С свинцом в груди и жаждой мести
Поникнув гордой головой

Anyways, where's Carius? The thread title is about him.
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Post 17 Sep 2008, 22:02
I like Carious. He is brave. It is interesting/entertaining to see someone SO SURE of his views, I mean, I always question EVERYTHING, including my views. I find evangelicals/creationists to be the same way (like carious).
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Post 17 Sep 2008, 22:24
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Anyways, where's Carius? The thread title is about him.

Nah, you're thinking of Shade2, our resident deranged Polish nationalist. Carius is okay, though he's prone to do things like post photos of Nazi Waffen SS officers cuddling fluffy little kittens.
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Post 17 Sep 2008, 22:30
Wow! There was/is an in-house deranged Polish nationalist?! (Is there such thing as a non-deranged Polish nationalist?) Sweet!
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Post 19 Sep 2008, 18:56
Carius is convinced that Saakashvili is a fluffy, (democratically elected!) kitten and just needs a pat on the head of launching massed artillery strikes into urban neighborhoods, as well as breaking international agreements and starting a small bloody war. If I was Georgian I would want to lynch him.
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Post 20 Sep 2008, 04:23
Now, this has probably has nothing to do with this topic, but does anyone notice the similarities between the Japanese Government and the Russian Government?
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Post 20 Sep 2008, 04:35
What? The Japanese government is highly corrupt, plays on militant nationalistic feelings, and beats the shit out of protesters?
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Post 20 Sep 2008, 09:12
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What? The Japanese government is highly corrupt, plays on militant nationalistic feelings, and beats the shit out of protesters?

What government doesn't?
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Post 20 Sep 2008, 09:41
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What government doesn't?


The conservative government of Luxembourg. We have +35% of foreigners and a lot of naturalized people. Coming up with nationalistic politics would seriously reduce chances of winning any election.

Nationalistic feelings were only popular after the NAZIs left which makes them still popular with the remains of that generation nowadays.

Whatever.


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Carius is convinced that Saakashvili is a fluffy, (democratically elected!) kitten and etc...


A lot of people think that way. I recently spoke with a guy who seemed to have forgotten that it were the georgians troops the first to move into SO. The media here did everything to make the Russian Federation look like the aggressor. France and Germany were the experts in that matter and I won't even mention what D.C. contributed.

The sad part is that so many people buy false facts.
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Post 20 Sep 2008, 12:24
Here is a poem a guy named Erkki from Sweden wrote. He wants to start posting here but he can't register because all his e-mails get rejected.


Invader!


Invader! You are not the first!
What do you see,what do you hear?
What you see, what you hear is Russia!

Invader! You are not the first!
Can´t you see them in the fog? Can´t you hear them in wind?
The horsemen from the east, the tankman from the west.

Invader! You are not the first!
On these fields they lie, the armies of Napoleon, the armies of King Karl.
They all came with fire to these great land, with the will to conquer it.

Invader! You are not the first!
Can you feel thr ground tremble? Can you feel it in the air?
Great Russia is rising once again, to smash a other enemy, a other invader.
You are not the first.
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Post 04 Oct 2008, 12:56
BTW, has anyone seen "Scythians" (by Blok or Bryusov) in English?
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Post 04 Oct 2008, 13:05
There ya go! 5.7 seconds on Google did the trick.


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The Scythians
Alexander Blok

You are millions. We are hordes and hordes and hordes.
Try and take us on!
Yes, we are Scythians! Yes, we are Asians -
With slanted and greedy eyes!

For you, the ages, for us a single hour.
We, like obedient slaves,
Held up a shield between two enemy races -
The Tatars and Europe!

For ages and ages your old furnace raged
And drowned out the roar of avalanches,
And Lisbon and Messina's fall
To you was but a monstrous fairy tale!

For hundreds of years you gazed at the East,
Storing up and melting down our jewels,
And, jeering, you merely counted the days
Until your cannons you could point at us!

The time is come. Trouble beats its wings -
And every day our grudges grow,
And the day will come when every trace
Of your Paestums may vanish!

O, old world! While you still survive,
While you still suffer your sweet torture,
Come to a halt, sage as Oedipus,
Before the ancient riddle of the Sphinx!..

Russia is a Sphinx. Rejoicing, grieving,
And drenched in black blood,
It gazes, gazes, gazes at you,
With hatred and with love!..

It has been ages since you've loved
As our blood still loves!
You have forgotten that there is a love
That can destroy and burn!

We love all- the heat of cold numbers,
The gift of divine visions,
We understand all- sharp Gallic sense
And gloomy Teutonic genius...

We remember all- the hell of Parisian streets,
And Venetian chills,
The distant aroma of lemon groves
And the smoky towers of Cologne...

We love the flesh - its flavor and its color,
And the stifling, mortal scent of flesh...
Is it our fault if your skeleton cracks
In our heavy, tender paws?

When pulling back on the reins
Of playful, high-spirited horses,
It is our custom to break their heavy backs
And tame the stubborn slave girls...

Come to us! Leave the horrors of war,
And come to our peaceful embrace!
Before it's too late - sheathe your old sword,
Comrades! We shall be brothers!

But if not - we have nothing to lose,
And we are not above treachery!
For ages and ages you will be cursed
By your sickly, belated offspring!

Throughout the woods and thickets
In front of pretty Europe
We will spread out! We'll turn to you
With our Asian muzzles.

Come everyone, come to the Urals!
We're clearing a battlefield there
Between steel machines breathing integrals
And the wild Tatar Horde!

But we are no longer your shield,
Henceforth we'll not do battle!
As mortal battles rages we'll watch
With our narrow eyes!

We will not lift a finger when the cruel Huns
Rummage the pockets of corpses,
Burn cities, drive cattle into churches,
And roast the meat of our white brothers!..

Come to your senses for the last time, old world!
Our barbaric lyre is calling you
One final time, to a joyous brotherly feast
To a brotherly feast of labor and of peace!

30 January 1918

As Blok wrote in his diary after finishing 'The Twelve': "Today, I'm a genius!"
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Post 04 Oct 2008, 14:29
I saw this translation some time ago, but it's not rhymed, so most of the spirit is lost
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Post 04 Oct 2008, 14:54
Give us a better translation then.
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Embalmed
Post 04 Oct 2008, 18:15
That sounds as shit as anything by McGonagall.

Papergut wrote:
I saw this translation some time ago, but it's not rhymed, so most of the spirit is lost

Poetry is untranslatable. It is a vocal music, it is the best music, though it is seperate from music - in that music is universal to all from a similar cultural upbringing and poetry only from cultural and linguistic roots.
Musical semiotics is perhaps an avenue I will explore with all force and vigour! Cheers again Potemkin, cider and SE!

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The Christmas Goose
Mr. SMIGGS was a gentleman,
And he lived in London town;
His wife she was a good kind soul,
And seldom known to frown.

'Twas on Christmas eve,
And Smiggs and his wife lay cosy in bed,
When the thought of buying a goose
Came into his head.

So the next morning,
Just as the sun rose,
He jump'd out of bed,
And he donn'd his clothes,

Saying, "Peggy, my dear.
You need not frown,
For I'll buy you the best goose
In all London town."

So away to the poultry shop he goes,
And bought the goose, as he did propose,
And for it he paid one crown,
The finest, he thought, in London town.

When Smiggs bought the goose
He suspected no harm,
But a naughty boy stole it
From under his arm.

Then Smiggs he cried, "Stop, thief!
Come back with my goose!"
But the naughty boy laugh'd at him,
And gave him much abuse.

But a policeman captur'd the naughty boy,
And gave the goose to Smiggs,
And said he was greatly bother'd
By a set of juvenile prigs.

So the naughty boy was put in prison
For stealing the goose.,
And got ten days' confinement
Before he got loose.

So Smiggs ran home to his dear Peggy,
Saying, "Hurry, and get this fat goose ready,
That I have bought for one crown;
So, my darling, you need not frown."

"Dear Mr Smiggs, I will not frown:
I'm sure 'tis cheap for one crown,
Especially at Christmas time --
Oh! Mr Smiggs, it's really fine."

"Peggy. it is Christmas time,
So let us drive dull care away,
For we have got a Christmas goose,
So cook it well, I pray.

"No matter how the poor are clothed,
Or if they starve at home,
We'll drink our wine, and eat our goose,
Aye, and pick it to the bone."
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