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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 05 Mar 2003, 16:07
Komsomol
Post 11 Mar 2009, 06:19
The Scythians. New translation by Dina Belyaeva - best so far - with rhythm preserved:

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You come in millions. Swarms and swarms are us.
Do dare overcome us in a fight!
Yes, Scyths are us! Yes, Asians are us!
Our narrow eyes are never satisfied!

What makes eons for you is just a flash for us.
We're lined up like the compliant stewards
To form a shield lest enmity shall pass
Between Mongolia and Europe!

You forged eons with deafening conceit
And thunder rolls that never grow thinner…
Yet brutal prophecies fulfilled in the defeat
Of Lisbon and Messina!

For hundreds years you peered to the East
While hoarding and melting our treasures.
And aimed your distant cannons at us whilst
You jeered and numbered the days in leisure!

The day has come. The menace spreads its wings.
And every day accumulates disgrace.
Here comes our time. And possibly it brings
The world where Paestum leaves no single trace!

Old Word, while you are unimpaired,
While you still wail in sweet sorrow,
You, like wise Oedipus at Sphinx, shall be prepared
To solve the ancient enigma tomorrow!

Oh, Russia is Your Sphinx! In joy and gloom
And in the thick of running blood
It stares and stares, it peers into you
With hatred and with love!

Our love's hot blooded, but your kin forgot
Intensity of such severe passion,
Forgot the love that brings into the world
Inferno and obliteration!

We love it all – the ardor of cold numbers,
The legacy of sacred revelations,
We apprehend it all – keen Gaelic banter,
Grim genius of German nation…

And we evoke all – Paris boulevards inferno
And coolness of Venetian alcoves,
Cologne edifices misty shadow,
And distant scent of lemon groves.

We worship flesh, its color and its taste,
Its stifling putrid stench attracts us.
Shall we be blamed if our vehement embrace
Come crushing down on your carcass?

We're used to brutal bone breaking might
To bring down wild steeds and rein them.
Our savage might is equally applied
When we subdue defiant maidens…

Do come to us! From horrors of a war
Do come into our arms and hug us!
While it is not too late do sheathe old swords.
Old fellows! Let's be brothers!

If you refuse, there's nothing left to lose
And we're quite capable of treason!
For many centuries your kin will be accused
By generations that'd be stricken!

In single sweep through woods and fern
We will recede and open amidst us
Suave Europe and then we'll turn
To you our Asiatic grimace!

So come to Urals, come at once
We're eager to make space for warlords
To pit steel gadgetry of the science
Against Mongol unruly hordes!

But as for us, no longer we provide
A shield, we'd rather be standbys.
We'd rather watch a deadly fight ignite
Through slits of our narrow eyes.

We would not stir in times when savage Huns
Search pockets on the corpses' clothes,
Burn cities and use temples to corral their herds
And turn their victims into gruesome roasts!..

At last come to your senses the Old World!
Do come to feast and to conspire.
At last respond to the convivial call
Proclaimed by our savage lyre!


http://www.stihi.ru/2009/01/07/3919
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Nov 2005, 08:18
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Post 18 Apr 2014, 10:34
An aptly timed bump perhaps?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 06 Dec 2009, 23:17
Philosophized
Post 18 Apr 2014, 15:02
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Apr 2010, 04:44
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Philosophized
Post 19 Apr 2014, 01:49
It's enough for me to be biologically of the Slav persuasion without having to be expected to be enthusiastic about it. I know what I am, thank you very much.
Miss Strangelove: "You feed giants laxatives so goblins can mine their poop before the gnomes get to it."
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 06 Dec 2009, 23:17
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Post 19 Apr 2014, 12:04
Anyway looking at old posts you learn to appreciate what SE is right now. At least it's a communist forum ( in the main ) and not a place for Red Alert kiddies and various RT-idiots to masturbate on.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Jul 2006, 04:49
Ideology: Juche
Old Bolshevik
Post 22 Apr 2014, 00:02
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Anyway looking at old posts you learn to appreciate what SE is right now. At least it's a communist forum ( in the main ) and not a place for Red Alert kiddies and various RT-idiots to masturbate on.


I was never a fan of the Russophilia and RA kiddies, but at least they were more principled than the left-liberals who have signed up here. At least they wouldn't be saying that Korea would have been better off under Syngman Rhee or that Syria would be better off under a bunch of Takfiris and Neo-liberal "democrats". I am glad that this site doesn't represent even a fraction of a percent of the Communist movement. If they did, the world would be in serious danger.
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Post 22 Apr 2014, 02:08
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At least they wouldn't be saying that Korea would have been better off under Syngman Rhee or that Syria would be better off under a bunch of Takfiris and Neo-liberal "democrats".

Who said that and where?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Mar 2010, 01:20
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Post 22 Apr 2014, 05:51
The thing is that only one person needs to suggest something vaguely like that and she wants to call in the drones on us all.


Misuzu wrote:
I was never a fan of the Russophilia and RA kiddies, but at least they were more principled than the left-liberals who have signed up here... I am glad that this site doesn't represent even a fraction of a percent of the Communist movement. If they did, the world would be in serious danger.
As far a Communist discussion sites goes this is probably one of more conservative non-revisionist ones, but yeah those moderates who do comment here represent a far greater danger to the world than anybody who's actually in some kind of position of power.

I doubt any kind of discussion site which allowed multiple people to join (and post) would meet with approval though.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Jul 2006, 04:49
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Post 21 May 2014, 23:38
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The thing is that only one person needs to suggest something vaguely like that and she wants to call in the drones on us all.


I acknowledged that I was out of line for making that post and apologised days after I made that post.

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but yeah those moderates who do comment here represent a far greater danger to the world than anybody who's actually in some kind of position of power.


Why should the "moderates" be allowed to shill for Western Imperialism and still be allowed to call themselves Communists? It wouldn't matter if a fascist, liberal (right or left), or some other type of anti-communist held these reactionary positions because they are our opponents. I expect much more from Communists than this. The "moderates" distort and cheapen the term Communist every bit as much as the RA kiddies, Russophiles, and Satano-Nazbols. Yami is not my comrade anymore than Interrupt_00h is; in my eyes, the two are just as bad.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Mar 2010, 01:20
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Post 22 May 2014, 02:18
Misuzu wrote:
I acknowledged that I was out of line for making that post and apologised days after I made that post.
Sorry. It was a little cheeky of me to bring that up. I don't think things are quite as bad (in terms of this site) as you seem to. It sometimes feels like you're attacking all of us in ways that aren't really fair.

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Why should the "moderates" be allowed to shill for Western Imperialism and still be allowed to call themselves Communists? It wouldn't matter if a fascist, liberal (right or left), or some other type of anti-communist held these reactionary positions because they are our opponents. I expect much more from Communists than this. The "moderates" distort and cheapen the term Communist every bit as much as the RA kiddies, Russophiles, and Satano-Nazbols. Yami is not my comrade anymore than Interrupt_00h is; in my eyes, the two are just as bad.
I'm not particularly threatened by their views myself. They don't hold any force. We're not a very active forum and there are going to be visitors who come through with those sorts of views. If they're not actively perpetuating hate speech or something similar I don't see the problem in shutting them down with superior arguments rather than just banning them. If their views were sitting there unchallenged it might be more of a problem, but there are posters who are happy to respond to them. Honestly it gives us a platform to respond to (and refute) those kinds of arguments which we aren't often given elsewhere. If Communist views were more widely accepted in the world at large perhaps we wouldn't need to waste energy on views like those, but we're sadly a fair way off that point.

I suppose we could get an ideologically sound regular to pose as devil's advocate and raise topics like this if you liked that idea, but I definitely think Communist ideas are strong enough to endure a few questions.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 20 Jul 2007, 06:59
Ideology: Marxism-Leninism
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Post 24 May 2014, 09:37
We live in a bourgeois society, which instills in us all bourgeois ideals (yes, that's all of us, in differing degrees). Proletariat ideology, on the other hand, isn't naturally "there". It comes from praxis, from experience and from knowledge.

In a way, it's kind if a disintoxication process, except you never leave the room with the gas. That's why acquiring a revolutionary concience is a constant happening, not an "enlightenment". Workers, students, people in general can gain it or lose it, to differing degrees.

If that's how it is in a class, how is a party different? How is a movement different? Organizations, works, parties, all are boats floating on a capitalist ocean. Even if you live on a socialist island, like a commune, you can be sure that the market pressure will still find a way in, and affect the decisions within it.

Of course, parties have structures, programs, and mechanisms that serve as their anchor (their biggest anchor, however is their contact with the working class,, how they study and incorporate their experience). Still, they also have hierarchies and real life interpersonal BS which often gets in the way just as much as health, family and other issues do.

What I mean to say is that any party will always have a moderate and even more revisionist wing, especially if it gets larger. In reality, only in a prerevolutionary or in a revolutionary situation, when people have to act and where the decisions become more narrow, will those who only "think" they are socialist but in reality are helping the enemy finally bolt, because they won't be able to carry things through; they'll hesitate, whimper and finally they'll turn around on us.

But let's not paint it so starkly. We all breathe the liberal poison. We all have bourgeois ideals, habits, to a degree. It's pretty naive that when we say we're a communist party we'll come across fully "enlightened" revolutionaries ready for action. No, we need to forge this group out of the large group, of those who are interested, of those who are fed up, but stil carry the oppresor's ideas in their heads, those who wish for a milder way, for a revolution without a revolution. With all of these people we have to debate, we have to open up with and prove wrong, to correct them, to incorporate them or discard them depending on circumstance (and that's what sometimes it boils down to, just timing, circumstance, personal bs). We have to be corrected too, since we too are poisoned, corrected even by those we place "beneath us" but who may know more about the current situation that you do, who hasn't fallen for intellectual vanity.

And so you'll always have a more moderate wing, we use it, sometimes it uses us.
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