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Post 27 May 2010, 00:09
Gentlemen, maybe I'm reading a bit too much into this, but does this appear to be Cuba's way of saying "Quit the Obama worship!"?

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This important event takes place amid an international economic crisis, provoked by economic policies based on the unstoppable squander and consumerism by the developed capitalist countries, for which there is no short term solution. The imperialist system imposed to the world is a serious threat to the human species today.

In Latin America, the promise by the current US administration to begin a new era in the relations with the region contradicts the reality, as it was witnessed with the position adopted with the Coup d'état in Honduras and the installation of several military bases in Colombia and other territories, which hinders stability in the region.

In the particular case of Cuba, the centers of power of United States and the European Union have organized, directed and financed a large campaign of discredit against our country raising with hypocrisy the flags of human rights. They have manipulated the death of a Cuban common inmate whom they transformed into a "political prisoner" and urged him to keep a hunger strike with absurd demands, while keeping an accomplice silence on their own grave and unacceptable violations of those rights in Guantanamo Naval Base, Abu Ghraib, etc.

Once again, the Cuban people demonstrated its massive support to its Revolution with the participation of 94% of the population in the recent elections for delegates to the Municipal Assemblies of People's Power.

Likewise, May 1st, massive and enthusiastic marches in the Revolution Square in Havana and the rest of the Cuban provinces were another convincing demonstration of support to our social project that is being improved, within socialism, by the Cuban people, in particular, the younger generations, in defense of the Revolution. .

In the face of the efforts to destroy the Revolution and generate a change of our social and economic system, we can assert with absolute conviction that we will never give up before the pressure of any nation or group of nations no matter how powerful these are.

While our people goes on waging a battle to free the five antiterrorist fighters unjustly imprisoned in the United States, while the most dangerous terrorist in Latin America, Luis Posada Carriles, who confessed the explosion of a Cubana Airline plane in October, 1976, has never been prosecuted for terrorism and walks freely in the streets of Miami despite the numerous denunciations of Cuba and Venezuela before the United Nations and other international bodies.

Within the spirit of solidarity and fraternity that characterize the relations between our parties, we wish you success in your debates.


I don't know if the National Board realizes it, but Cuba just scolded the CPUSA big time. Other greetings can be found here. There was also a representative from the Socialist Republic of Vietnam's embassy present for the convention.
Post 27 May 2010, 17:20
A scolding true enough, but the fact of the matter is that the CPUSA isn't accountable to Cuba, any more than the current US government is. If Socialism does come to the US, these abuses will cease, and criminals like Carriles will be returned to face trial in their home country. We'll do everything we can to cease and desist from imperialist outrage, but a socialist America will still be its own entity. Foreign influence, communist or otherwise, will most likely remain minimal while the revolutionary government sets up in this country.
Post 27 May 2010, 18:33
True, but I think we'd be wise to heed the advice of communists who actually hold power and have been as successful as the Cubans in the face of their trials and tribulations. As the old saying goes: "Protesting is easy. Governing is a bitch."
Post 12 Jun 2010, 12:49
Post 13 Jun 2010, 06:48
I really hope the revolutionists can seize control of the CPUSA but that seems like an insurmountable task at this point.
Post 13 Jun 2010, 17:57
I don't, honestly. I think the state of capitalism shapes a lot of things about a communist party. Capitalism in the US is so deeply ideologically and culturally entrenched I feel that it has perverted the left. This perversion, a result of anti-communist hysteria that climaxed with the cold war, is the reason for our loyalty to the right (just compare us to europe! their conservatives are as left as our democrats, who are supposed to be our left) and the CPUSA is no exception from that.

For communism in the US to revert to its revolutionary roots, there's going to have to be a change to the status quo first. World capitalism will need a crisis severe enough to destabilize the top of the food chain. Crises push people to be radical, especially in the state, who will not be treating the far left like it does now.

The best we can do right now is sow the seeds for a ripe harvest in the future, do whatever we can to prepare ourselves and create options to exploit when we face that tremendous battle.
Post 24 Aug 2010, 17:26
Impressions of the CPUSA convention http://mltoday.com/en/subject-areas/com ... 914-2.html
Post 24 Aug 2010, 19:50
Wow, the cpusa is shittier then I thought.
Post 24 Aug 2010, 23:48
I've been inclining toward joining CPUSA, but this new information gives me serious pause. However, I haven't been able to uncover any independent confirmation of this interpretation of events. I've been inclined to think of the modern CPUSA as holding more Marxist cred than an obvious SD org such as the modern Socialist Party, but this latest news is disturbing, to say the least.

I'll have to think long and hard about this, before I go joining a glorified Barack Obama fan club.
Post 25 Aug 2010, 01:12
Well I wouldn't base a decision on whether or not to join a political organization based on what amounts to gossip. For whats it worth the CPUSA is probably the largest workers' party in the USA, and the strongest in the trade union movement, which is where any working-class party needs to be based. And the CPUSA is most closely tied to the international Communist movement.

When I see all the heat Obama takes from the teabaggers for even his limited liberal not even social democratic or New Dealist reforms, I understand the degree to which Obama's freedom to maneuver is limited. Even America's sacred bourgeois freedoms like the 1st and 14th amendment have come under attack by the Teabaggers. So I don't know if there is much use in criticizing Obama or trying to force him to the left, when he has taken such heat for even his soft centrist positions. But while I would not focus attacks on Obama, I think there are elements within the CPUSA who come close to advocating complete absorption into Obama Progressivism.

IDK what the political situation is in your area. But if the CPUSA is the only fighting force there, then I wouldn't discount them over theory when real work can be done on the ground. On the other hand they are a party that would look pretty negatively on "Unbridled Snakes of Amnesia". So if you would spend most of your time in the party fighting with other party members over theory, then perhaps more useful work could be done in a party closer to your ideology. The CPUSA varies widely chapter to chapter. But generally the people who join, join the Communist Party for a reason, as there are plenty of Obama fan clubs around.

Its a complex situation. On the one hand the excuse for CPUSA moderation pre-2008 was the need to unite to defeat Bush and the ultra-right. But now with Obama president, the ultra-right still keeps us on the defensive. On the other hand the Tea Party has shown that the ultra-right is NOT a boogie man but a real proto-fascist threat. I'm sure Sam Webb would like to be leading the charge for socialism. But no one gets to chose the situation they find themselves in. Despite Obama's victory, the rise of the ultra-right has in many ways forces us back onto defensive ground. We can't simply chose to ignore that reality.

Overall I think the CPUSA is realistic when it comes to the range of options the Democrats have and the futility of trying to "push" them to the left. Given that strategic situation, how does that shape the tactics we use on the ground?
Post 25 Aug 2010, 12:34
The important thing is not to fight the Teabaggers at their own game, as defeat is certainly inevitable. Teabaggers are a massive defensive shield dropped in place by the GOP and fortified with fanaticism and millions of dollars. Any time you hit a GOP nerve, out come the attack dogs. Today Teabaggers with bullhorns, tomorrow SA with truncheons and guns. The progression is inevitable.

We need to find a way to bypass this Chinese wall of insanity and reach the proletariat directly. How can this be done?
Post 26 Aug 2010, 01:08
should people aggressively counter-protest the tea party? i think we need something to be nationalist too , exposing them for their anti-nationalism such as opposing the first and 4th amendment would hurt them, national solidarity and opposition to soldiers being killed in other countries as well as ruining america's reputation could perhaps strike a chord.

what do you mean order? you mean ignoring the tea party and simply going straight to the people who are interested in joining the tea party?
Post 26 Aug 2010, 03:07
GreenCommunism wrote:
what do you mean order? you mean ignoring the tea party and simply going straight to the people who are interested in joining the tea party?

The Teabaggers are a street-level defense battalion put in place to shield their masters from accountability or even visibility. All discussion of issues bogs down in endless Teabagger rallies instead of intelligent (and potentially confrontational and embarassing) discourse held directly with the status quo itself. What I mean is this: from now on, when you try to protest the system, you end up facing a wall of Teabaggers who put themselves between you and the people you're trying to communicate your displeasure to. So we need to find ways to circumvent their human Teabagger shields, rather than playing their hide and seek game.
Post 28 Aug 2010, 14:39
how about being more populist? i guess your right , they have too much power right now, best way to sabotage their shit would be to go directly to the people that the tea party might affect. since they are often petty bourgeois, the lower strata of society would be good, also the ethnic minorities, you should point out how they are not libertarian when it comes to issue like race, illegal immigration etc. how could a libertarian oppose the mosque.
Post 29 Aug 2010, 21:42
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Well I wouldn't base a decision on whether or not to join a political organization based on what amounts to gossip. For whats it worth the CPUSA is probably the largest workers' party in the USA, and the strongest in the trade union movement, which is where any working-class party needs to be based. And the CPUSA is most closely tied to the international Communist movement.


I don't think that any of these claims about the CPUSA are true. Almost every other Communist organization in the US has fairly strong ties to labor (perhaps take the ISO, which is the largest Communist organization but is based mainly on the student movement and not much on the workers' movement)

Also, the PSL, WWP, FRSO and RCP probably have much stronger ties to the international Communist Movement (which is, as you know not organized into an international anymore) through the various efforts to unite the movement.

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When I see all the heat Obama takes from the teabaggers for even his limited liberal not even social democratic or New Dealist reforms, I understand the degree to which Obama's freedom to maneuver is limited. Even America's sacred bourgeois freedoms like the 1st and 14th amendment have come under attack by the Teabaggers. So I don't know if there is much use in criticizing Obama or trying to force him to the left, when he has taken such heat for even his soft centrist positions. But while I would not focus attacks on Obama, I think there are elements within the CPUSA who come close to advocating complete absorption into Obama Progressivism.


The CPUSA is (and has been for a time) an organization that attempts to pressure and promote the Democratic Party to be more reformist. The one time I visited their hq (which was during the Presidential Primaries), the majority of their members were wearing Obama pins for example.

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IDK what the political situation is in your area. But if the CPUSA is the only fighting force there, then I wouldn't discount them over theory when real work can be done on the ground. On the other hand they are a party that would look pretty negatively on "Unbridled Snakes of Amnesia". So if you would spend most of your time in the party fighting with other party members over theory, then perhaps more useful work could be done in a party closer to your ideology. The CPUSA varies widely chapter to chapter. But generally the people who join, join the Communist Party for a reason, as there are plenty of Obama fan clubs around.


I don't really know of anywhere where the CPUSA is a fighting force where there are no other actual Communist groups (and it's quite a stretch to call the CPUSA a fighting force by the way).

The "real work" that the CPUSA does on the ground is to promote legislation that the Democrats are trying to pass in congress. They're less critical of the Dems than some in the Left of the Democratic Party even! Just look at their website for 5-10 minutes.
Post 20 Dec 2010, 04:31
Well, I would like to state the following from an Article of the APL Theoretical Journal:

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Why the CPUSA is Revisionist & Why There is a Need For the American Party of Labor
It has been asked of the American Party of Labor (hence forward referred by our acronym APL) many times why we felt that there was a need for yet another communist party in the United States. After all, there is the nominally Marxist-Leninist Communist Party of the USA (CPUSA), the nominally Maoist Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP), and of course dozens of Trotskyite factions in the US. In light of this, the leadership of the APL felt that there was a need to explain, to Marxist-Leninists especially, why a new Party is necessary. We do not think that anyone needs to have the differences between ourselves and the Trotskyites rehashed yet again here, but rest assured that in this first volume the APL will write an article in that direction. The question that is most pressing is, why is there is a need to break with the other traditional parties in the US? Over the course of the next year, Revolutionary Spirit will provide articles dealing with the CPUSA and the RCP. In this article, we will deal with the CPUSA specifically, which is ostensibly the largest communist party in the US and has been around in one incarnation or another since the 1920s.

The CPUSA has a very long and varied history. In fact, it was, at its peak in the early 1930s, at least somewhat Marxist. However, since World War II it has slid into severe revisionism and reformism. Some of this can be blamed on the Khrushchevite revisionism coming from Moscow, which caused problems not only in the Soviet Union but also in most of Eastern Europe. A full discussion of this would have to include a great deal of discussion on the concepts of revisionism, social-imperialism and the contributions of comrade Enver Hoxha of Albania to the Post-Stalin era of Marxism-Leninism. This article shall not delve too deeply into that arena, as comrade Hoxha wrote about it extensively and his works can be located on the APL recommended readings list.

Instead, we will discuss the homegrown revisionism of the past, present and future within the CPUSA and show why the CPUSA is leading itself down a path toward liquidation and is in fact currently aiding imperialism and capitalism at home and abroad.


For the FULL Article, here:
http://revolutionaryspiritapl.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-cpusa-is-revisionist-why-there-is_27.html
Post 25 Dec 2010, 01:30
Yay, more obscure factional infighting over theoretical positions that have no relevance to genuine grassroots struggles.

Seriously, the amount of internet Marxism today is amazing. Why don't you try explaining Marxism-Leninism-Hoxhaism to a worker about to lose their job, and see how far it gets you.
Post 25 Dec 2010, 01:44
Yes, let's go for anti-intellectualism instead, and see how far it gets us.
Post 25 Dec 2010, 04:33
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Seriously, the amount of internet Marxism today is amazing. Why don't you try explaining Marxism-Leninism-Hoxhaism to a worker about to lose their job, and see how far it gets you.


A theoretical journal is just as the name implies, theoretical.

And as a Worker myself I have a far grasp of what ideology is. And what is obscure about pointing out that the CPUSA doesn't do anything? Do you have a better solution? If so post it. Do you think we should just get in line and follow the CPUSA because it has 'Communist' in the Name? Or are you someone who thinks that the CPUSA can be turned back to an adequate revolutionary organization.

I'm fine with you offering criticisms, I am totally fine with that, but if you don't provide solutions, how can I take your seriously? If you read the article I posted, it provides solutions, you may not agree with them but they are solutions none the less. Give me solutions, GIVE THE WORKER solutions.
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