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Post 09 Jul 2013, 04:43
Can someone help with what the hell the communists are doing in Nepal? The communists are in-fighting like crazy! Does anyone have any information on this? I read up on the news about it and such. I just talked with someone from Nepal, and they tell me they are corrupt and just bow to India.

Do any of you have anything you can tell me?
Post 09 Jul 2013, 07:06
They are blinded morons who worship Mao Zedong. They shouldn't be trusted to liberate the people of Nepal nor like the so called Communist in India.
Post 09 Jul 2013, 17:52
Are there any communists you don't hate Eire?
Post 10 Jul 2013, 03:17
Dagoth Ur wrote:
Are there any communists you don't hate Eire?


Is there any crazed murderers that you don't love?

And to answer your question, here are some communist I love: Myself, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky, Josip Broz Tito, Todor Zhivkov, Janos Kadar, Zhou Enlai, Fidel Castro, The Bolsheviks, The FARC, the EZLN, and the Irish National Liberation Army. I hate any "communist" which refers to themselves as "Stalinist, Maoist, or Juche" plain and simple.
Post 10 Jul 2013, 03:44
There are plenty of Marxist-Leninists in Nepal. The two main parties are the Maoists and the Unified Marxist Leninist.
Post 10 Jul 2013, 03:55
lol you like FARC but not the Nepalese Communists? Hilarious Eire. That said I support both. Unlike you I don't attack communists.
Post 10 Jul 2013, 05:04
Dagoth Ur wrote:
lol you like FARC but not the Nepalese Communists? Hilarious Eire. That said I support both. Unlike you I don't attack communists.


Me attacking communist? No, I am only attacking schizophrenic and paranoid Stalinist and Maoist!
Post 10 Jul 2013, 06:32
Call it what you like. I don't attack communists from Trot to Maoist.
Loz
Post 10 Jul 2013, 06:58
Prachanda and co. obviously realized you can't actually "build socialism" in Nepal so they switched to supporting democracy and capitalism, so i read in an article on this a while ago.
Last edited by Loz on 10 Jul 2013, 13:56, edited 1 time in total.
Post 10 Jul 2013, 12:14
I remember when all Trotskyists were delighted (and Maoists in a panic) about Baburam Bhattarai's statement that:

Quote:
“Today, the globalization of imperialist capitalism has increased many-fold as compared to the period of the October Revolution. The development of information technology has converted the world into a global village. However, due to the unequal and extreme development inherent in capitalist imperialism this has created inequality between different nations. In this context, there is still (some) possibility of revolution in a single country similar to the October revolution; however, in order to sustain the revolution, we definitely need a global or at least a regional wave of revolution in a couple of countries. In this context, Marxist revolutionaries should recognize the fact that in the current context, Trotskyism has become more relevant than Stalinism to advance the cause of the proletariat”.


http://www.marxist.com/communist-party- ... rotsky.htm

This visionary was PM of Nepal up until very recently.
Post 18 Jul 2013, 06:21
Dispatches From the People's War in Nepal (printed by the RCP) is the only book I know that goes into detail about Communism and Nepal from a Marxist point of view. It is several years old and outdated (it was written before the monarchy fell); however, it does go into detail about the historical relations between the CPs and the relations of Nepal and India. It'll give you a better understanding of the current situation in Nepal.
Post 18 Jul 2013, 18:03
Eire wrote:
Todor Zhivkov
You do realize that Zhivkov died basically a social-democrat, right? As The New York Times put it: "Mr. Zhivkov laughed at a statement by his one-time East German counterpart, Erich Honecker, that Communism would rise again. 'This is utter nonsense,' he said grinning." See: http://www.nytimes.com/1990/11/28/world ... ently.html
Post 22 Jul 2013, 15:12
He was repressive, as well. So I don't know why he gets a pass while others don't. Kadar, Tito, and Enlai I can understand, but Todor Zhivkov, of all people?

For that matter, Trotsky wasn't exactly a saint. He ended up on the wrong side of the icepick, but I don't think his personal trajectory, both before and after his exile, suggest that he was any better than Stalin (in regards to the most criticised aspects of Stalin's rule, which is a discussion for another time). He just had far less personal power.

Some years ago I too believed that Trotsky was some kind of democratic foil to Stalin's authoritarian rule (and in fact the man tried to capitalize on this during his exile in the West), but his early works and speeches tell a different story. Furthermore, after going through them several times I started perceiving an undercurrent of dishonesty and political opportunism that went back even to early days. This is not to say that he doesn't have some interesting books, but I'd take his statements, particularily those after his exile, with a pinch of salt.
Post 22 Jul 2013, 19:33
Trotsky's problem was he wanted to win way too much. He also underestimated the effects of several centuries of Tzarism.
Post 07 Jul 2015, 00:24
Eire wrote:
And to answer your question, here are some communist I love: Myself, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky, Josip Broz Tito, Todor Zhivkov, Janos Kadar, Zhou Enlai, Fidel Castro, The Bolsheviks, The FARC, the EZLN, and the Irish National Liberation Army. I hate any "communist" which refers to themselves as "Stalinist, Maoist, or Juche" plain and simple.

How can you support Trotsky while also supporting Tito, Zhivkov, Kadar, Enlai, Castro? Wouldn't they all be considered leaders in deformed or degenerated workers states? Also FARC and the Irish National Liberation Army as declared Marxist-Leninists probably have a lot of common with communists you refer to as "Stalinists".
Post 13 Jul 2015, 00:03
Eire wrote:

Is there any crazed murderers that you don't love?

And to answer your question, here are some communist I love: Myself, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky, Josip Broz Tito, Todor Zhivkov, Janos Kadar, Zhou Enlai, Fidel Castro, The Bolsheviks, The FARC, the EZLN, and the Irish National Liberation Army. I hate any "communist" which refers to themselves as "Stalinist, Maoist, or Juche" plain and simple.

A Trotskyist scum detected. He also throws in some other names like Castro to cover himself up. And of course Lenin hahaha. Lets pretend together Lenin actually didn't agree with Stalin and instead agreed with Trotsky.
Post 27 Nov 2015, 12:36
Eire is an idiot. I'm actually a schizophrenic-Maoist.
>Trotsky
>Tito
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