Chances of Socialism Returning to Russia?

What are you thoughts on weather you think Socialism will return to Russia anytime soon?

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is still the Main Opposition party. In the 2007 election the party scored 16.02%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_ ... Federation

They always finish second in the elections. But from what I've heard a lot of Russians wouldn't mind going back to socialism so I'd say it's not impossible at all.

The KPRF is nothing like the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. They're really just Social democrats in a lot of respects. But with that said, a growing number of Russians seem to be pro-Socialist or are angry with the current system. A return to Socialism is a long way off but not impossible.

If revolution comes back to Russia, and be sure nothing short of it will return socialism to the land, it will not be by the KPRF. As far as I can tell the only agent of revolution in russia as it stands is the AKM, but then they aren't really a vanguard party.

dismantle moscow of its power and centralization like limonov suggested and you'll be having socialism back in a short amount of time. i would go further with what should be done with moscow but that would be politically incorrect. while moscow stands it will remain a symbol of utter moral decadence and capitalist supremacy over workers.

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is the largest opposition party to United Russia; but it really is just loyal opposition.

I don't see it happening in the near future, although it admittedly would be wonderful.

When the first Revolution occurred, it was fought against a decrepit state with a backwards infrastructure. As we all know, the Bolsheviks came out on top and, through hard work and toil, built a system and infrastructure capable of rivaling the most powerful nation in the world at the time... and all of this after fighting a vicious war which, by all means, should have crippled the country.

With the piece-meal privatization of all this infrastructure, considerable power has been placed in the hands of men whom are not only capitalist but downright criminal. While I don't think it would be impossible for workers to seize control of their nation again, it would be against enemies far more vicious than Nicholas II and his cronies. We are talking about men who participate in the unconscionable here.

As for restoration by way of reform, such will never create a Worker's State. Reform simply means that powerful interests get to maintain their standing and distinction within society. They get to control the internal apparatus of the State and directly influence the media to provide exactly the information they want the people to have. This never changes within capitalist societies, even in those societies which have gone the furthest in implementing socialist-style systems. In the end, reform simply means that oppressive power structures which enable the bourgeoisie to exploit the proletariat remain intact.

I'd love to see restoration happen, but I certainly don't envy the former Soviet people the fight it will take to accomplish that.

As a side note, I should add that it depresses the heck out of me too. I mean, the Soviet people struggled, worked, and sacrificed to make all of that industrial infrastructure possible, all in the understanding that it belonged to them and in hope that it would someday allow for the establishment of Communism within the USSR. It was built on their blood, sweat, and tears and is now turned against them as an oppressive structure by crude thugs who were unscrupulous enough to grease enough palms in order to gain control of it.

It actually makes me feel physically ill to even think about it.

Most of the industrial power of the USSR has been destroyed, not captured.

TheRussianLord wrote:

Most of the industrial power of the USSR has been destroyed, not captured.

I stand corrected... but that's still rather depressing. Still, I suppose it's better that it's destroyed than in oppressive hands... I do hope that you folks can take back what is rightfully yours!

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Chances of Socialism Returning to Russia?

Presently, it's a hopeless sentiment. You might have read something on here about the general public in Russia wanting to make a return to the days of old, but what they're actually talking about is an endearing "soft spot" for the hammer and sickle. After all, it was Putin himself who said something like, "Anyone who doesn't regret the passing of the Soviet Union has no heart. Anyone who wants it restored has no brains."

It is not so far off to ask this questions, as the mayority of the peoples of the former CCCP have good experience with socialism and likewise bad with capitalism.

And the notion that the RFKP( Zhuganov`s party) is social-democratic, revisionists etc is completely false.

It have been some worries about their direction, especially some years ago, but the struggle in the party have been won by the marxist-leninist and the new program is a socialist,communist political programme for the general interest of the working-class and all working-people and allies and lin the longer term emancipation of the exploited proletariat through socialism.

The international communist movement are still reshaping, reorganising, struggling inside each party and the movement as a whole to rid themselves, ourselves of anti-party, anti-marxist elements to regroup as an strong international communist movement pole strictly adhering to marxism-leninism and proletarian internationalism. The signs and the facts on the ground are positivite, but not the same all over the line.

RFKP is on right track as the international communist movement as an whole are heading, although as I wrote, some places worse or better than others, even some completely corrupted and liquidated, but also some what you can "fully recovered" .

So the people of old Soviet-Union and in this case specially the russians, maybe once again the leading force of the world proletariat.

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It have been some worries about their direction, especially some years ago, but the struggle in the party have been won by the marxist-leninist and the new program is a socialist,communist political programme for the general interest of the working-class and all working-people and allies and lin the longer term emancipation of the exploited proletariat through socialism.

Could you provide a link to a source documenting this?

As far as I'm concerned, while the CPRF is lead by Zhuganov it will not be genuinely ML. For that matter, while I am unsure whether ordinary Russians would go along with this, I don't believe the CPRF should even participate in electoral politics. Even when they arguably won the election (presidential election 1996) they were defrauded of their victory. Today their role, as Red Rebel noted, is of a loyal opposition.

They wouldn't be allowed to continue functioning if they posed a legitimate threat to the party in power.

The Bolsheviks weren't allowed to function either, but did anyway (although I recognize that the Russian regime didn't view them as a very serious threat at the time).

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The Bolsheviks weren't allowed to function either, but did anyway

I thought that was because a majority of the Bolsheviks were in Zurich.

The Bolsheviks functioned illegally. The CPRF is legal.

Have no specific link to specific documents; I would suggest you do some analyse yourself instead of proclaiming dogmatic views of comrade Zhuganov and the KPRF and maybe read their new program, the resolutions of the last congresses, analyse the situation and development social, economical, political of the whole working-class movement, building of socialism and specific historic characteristics in the whole world and concrete in Russia including the ideological-politcal struggle in the int. communist movement all over and specifically 1990-today.

The reality is not imagination and dogmatic views, its reality.

That's just it. Party programs aside, the CPRF is disconnected (or at least was when I was active in Russia) from the people, especially younger people. Many older people (like my grandparents) vote for the CPRF out of nostalgia and habit, but they just don't have a finger on the pulse of modern day issues. CPRF members often attended our rallies and protests, and occasionally they would even do so as an organization rather then just individuals. But the idea of the CPRF starting an illegal protest to protest government actions was unthinkable. They could still follow, and jump on the bandwagon when it was convenient, but they are not able to lead a potential revolution. They also don't try to work with ordinary people on the low level of politics. Their impressive nation-wide showing is just a sign that many people miss the Soviet times.