03 Apr 2008, 00:05
I'm questioning the apparent contradiction between your two statements. If Khrushchev was "the greatest Soviet leader" because he "ended Stalin's oppression", then how do you reconcile that belief with your statement that Stalin was in fact "the greatest leader of all time in history"?
03 Apr 2008, 00:15
I don't consider everything that Stalin did was good. As I see him as a cruel but brilliant man. As when the Nazi's captured his son and purging people without proof of them conspiring against the government. Also other things like sending the Chechnyans to Siberia. What I meant in this topic was those after Stalin and Lenin. I wanted to know more about Brezhnev, Andropov, Cherenko. More about Andropov and Cherenko since their reigns where short.
03 Apr 2008, 00:20
No individually. Like I think Brezhnev was the best because he did this in the USSR & etc., etc.. As I said I didn't mean for this topic to be filled with Lenin's and Stalin's.
03 Apr 2008, 00:28
Oh. Well, I think Brezhnev and Khrushchev together could actually make some sort of passable leader. Khrushchev was great for the U.S.S.R.'s economy and gave a huge kickstart to space exploration, whereas Brezhnev was a great hard-liner and did a decent job of maintaing political stability.
03 Apr 2008, 00:33
I think brezhnev because according to my parents life was of the best quality during his reign.
03 Apr 2008, 01:12
It's actually choosing between these options:
1. Only Lenin
2. Only Lenin and Stalin
3. Lenin and Stalin, but also the reign of Suslov and his companion Andropov after Stalin
4. Option for liberal bourgeois traitor fags: Gorbi and Yeltsin
03 Apr 2008, 04:06
Lensky Khruschev was economically retarded. This is the guy that planted corn north of the Arctic Circle.
03 Apr 2008, 17:50
Stalin, the crowd favorite I would have to say.
03 Apr 2008, 21:40
I think he means this crowd.
Anyway, you could mean this different ways:
What did they accomplish and what did their actions directly lead to beyond their own lifetime?
What did they accomplish during their own life time?
Lenin obviously gets the first, Stalin obviously gets the second. Stalin's relatively long tenure in office had something to do with that, as did his policies.
04 Apr 2008, 12:08
If we are talking post stalin, then Andropov. He rocks my socks. Pity it was so short....
04 Apr 2008, 13:13
Andropov was in se a centrist, but a better kind of centrism in comparison with Suslov.
08 Apr 2008, 04:53
As mentioned earlier, Lenin was the great revolutionary, political thinker, and guide for world revolution, but his tenure as Soviet leader was short. Given that, the title has to go to Stalin.
Despite his excessive harshness, Stalin's leadership brought a large semi-medieval nation to the forefront of 20th century industrial society in the span of 10-15 years, nearly eliminated illiteracy, inspired the nation's political will to fight the most formidable army on earth, and rebuilt a torn nation under the pressures of superpower rivalry. And let's not forget how his example served as practical lessons for countless founders of new independent Third World nations.
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