Fellow Comrade wrote:I believe the present regime has the ability reform internally and build socialism over time, and hopefully with a more democratic approach.
Fellow Comrade wrote:The rebels, in my opinion, would destroy the country and make it just another puppet of Western imperialism.
Quote:Hopefully out of all of this Gaddafi will be forced to step up the anti-Western, pro-socialist, rhetoric and inspire his people to take up the movement that he abandoned decades ago.
Fellow Comrade wrote:I wouldn't say he completely abandoned it, he did what he thought was necessary to survive in an era without the Soviet support.
Fellow Comrade wrote:You've really just made my argument for me.
Fellow Comrade wrote:I expect the leaders of the resistance to be executed, but that won't get all the disgruntled people in the east on side.
Quote:The difference is you believe in Gaddafi
Fellow Comrade wrote:Don't put words into my mouth.
Fellow Comrade wrote:That said, I think it's wrong to say Gaddafi has only been thinking of himself.
Fellow Comrade wrote:It's been more about regime survival which to his mind has to come first. He is getting old and should step down as leader soon but shouldn't be written off completely.
Quote:I don't think he does any more so than insofar as it keeps him in power.
Quote:I don't think he really has anything left to offer and is more a liability to Libyan socialism than any type of boon.
Fellow Comrade wrote:Than you're wrong. I think his record proves that.
Fellow Comrade wrote:Ask what any Western Libyan thinks of him and they'll probably see him as a symbol for all the good which has come to Libya since the coup. Such a symbol should never be discarded. You might as well tell Russians they shouldn't respect and admire Lenin and Stalin.
Dagoth Ur wrote:Agreed. Gaddafi has been working with imperialists since the 80's and was only invaded because Libya looked weak enough to be taken over rather than negotiated with. Really the issue is that we cannot support imperialism even when it appears to be taking down someone we don't really care for. Personally I'd love to see Kim Jong-il removed from power in the DPRK but to see it happen with american bombs would make me totally rage.
Loz wrote:Libya is a state controlled by Gaddafi and his reactionary degenerate clique.
Libya isn't even close to socialism.
Gaddafi is the most decadent world leader of the today: we all know about his extravagant habits,but his son recently spent 100 million dollars on making a movie about some mafia boss.Where do you think that money came from? From the people,of course.
Oil belong to the people,not parasites!
The fact that he's anti-western in his rhetorics doesn't make him any less reactionary.
runequester wrote:Im not sure I am on board with the "enemy of the west equals friend of ours" dogma.
Gaddafi may have redeeming qualities but he is not running a workers state in any meaning of the word, and has no intention of ever doing so.
Zulu wrote:It must be taken into account that Libya as of 1969, when Gaddafi took power, was an extremely backward society stuck somewhere between tribalism and feudal formation. Hence there was no way to convert it in a "workers' state" in a span of just two generations.
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