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Post 11 Mar 2007, 07:19
Comrades,

I feel very grieved everytime I get to hear about an Indian or a non-white being attacked/abused in Russia. No wonder the fall of socialism brought with it all the ills inherent in a Capitalist society like racism and hatred.

It is said here in India often that Soviets had a special warmth for Indians but what explains this sudden surge in attacks on Indians?? Were there any recorded incidents of racism in the Soviet Union(none that I know of but of course my knowledge is limited).

This racist attacks on non-whites brings to my memory the famous Paul Robeson, the black who was much in awe of the USSR.
What happened to the Eastern Europe of those days??

I try to explain this by saying that it must be a routine mugging/theft incident and an Indian happened to be the victim which was immediately written of as a racist incident. Correct me if I am wrong comrades....
Post 11 Mar 2007, 18:27
I'm sure one of our other comrades can expand much more than I can, but basically racist attacks happen because of economic reasons. There was a much lessened class division in the USSR hence the lack of racist attacks. Since the re-introduction of class division in Russia, the economic situations has caused people to blame others (in the form of racism).
Post 11 Mar 2007, 19:01
Neonazi scum is resurgent in Russia: hence attacks.

Perhaps though those are routing muggings, after all the crime levels are unbelievable and steadily rising through the years.
Post 11 Mar 2007, 20:30
That's definitively a shame. Oligarch and mafia should be busted out of their position of power, then social order and people security could come back....
Post 14 Mar 2007, 21:25
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This racist attacks on non-whites brings to my memory the famous Paul Robeson, the black who was much in awe of the USSR. What happened to the Eastern Europe of those days??


The same thing which happened to the India of those days...

Though I am saddened at the racist / ethnic attacks against Indians in other places, like Russia, it must be remembered that the largest perpetrators of ethnic / race (or caste) related attacks & violence against Indians are...Indians.

How's about the ULFA's attacks on non Assamese MIGRANT WAGE LABOURERS from places like Bihar? The Godhra carnage & the Gujrat riots? The Mumbai riots??? The RSS? SIMI? The Ranveer Sena? How's about all that Dalit Vs. "Upper caste" violence we see which consumes at least a few dozen lives per incident? The Ram Jamnaboomi Vs. Babri Masjid fiasco? The mass eradication of Kashmiri Pandiths? The stigmatisation of Lankan Tamil 'refugees in TAMIL NADU?

Seriously bro, we've killed off WAY more of our own bros than ANY skikhead gang in Russia could ever hope for. We've been butchering our own people LONG before the birth of any skinhead group in Russia.

Back when I was a teenager...in Mumbai, Muslims and Hindus would be chillin' together side by side, indulging in some mouth watering bhang lassis by the main railway station. Just a few years later, the bhang lassis were replaced by machetes...

To get to your point, capitalism brings with it exclusivity where you have .5% of the population controlling all the resources. There is a "managerial" class that constitutes 5%-10% of your population that's absorbed by the elite .5% (ex: Programmer for TATA, RIL engineer etc., etc). The remaining % of the population are...to put it in plain English...told to f#$K off.

These folks who aren't the part of the corporate class or who aren't absorbed by the corporate class don't even get to sniff (let alone eat) the economic pie. As a result, they surely become gullable to sensationalist scumbags who play the race / religion / ethnicity card to get themselves a power base. And left on dead ends on all sides, many members of society fall prey to such sensationalists- like race, ethnicity, religion, caste groups.

And the flag carriers (or leaders) of the ethnic / race (or caste) / religion card often claim that the oppression of their "bretheren" (i.e. Hindus, Muslims, Whites, Dalits etc) is due to deliberate national policy. And the entire populus gets blinded to the fact that all their sufferings are a direct byproduct of embracing capitalism.

Welcome to capitalism, comrades...

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It is said here in India often that Soviets had a special warmth for Indians but what explains this sudden surge in attacks on Indians??


Before assessing the "warmth" of the Soviets towards Indians, maybe we Indians should all collectively take a deep look at the level of warmth we have towards each other.
Post 17 Mar 2007, 18:23
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Neonazi scum is resurgent in Russia: hence attacks.


I dont get the logic of this but hw is it that a nation which went through hell at the hands ofthe Nazis have sympathizers for the very Nazis themselves??

Arif you are right about India...no wonder we kept fighting amidst ourselves and gave the British imperialist scum a reason to get into this country...sad man
in the present day the main folks encouraging all this stuff are the boureoisie parties like the Congress and BJP!! kick them out and send them to the gulags
Post 18 Mar 2007, 04:38
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Before assessing the "warmth" of the Soviets towards Indians, maybe we Indians should all collectively take a deep look at the level of warmth we have towards each other.

The Soviets no longer exist - it would be Russians Indo-Soviet is talking about.
Post 18 Mar 2007, 14:17
I already made a post about class differences being the root of the attacks. People associate people of dark-colored skin as illegal immigrants who come to take their jobs and take over their country. Or something like that.
Post 29 Mar 2007, 11:38
Don't you just love what wonderful "liberal democratic" capitalism has brought to Russia? They're so happy now that they've been liberated by the glorious Americans from da evveel commies.

I read an article recently about a Central Asiatic woman who said that back in Soviet times "we were all one big family" but now she gets dirty looks and insults for being non-European. It's odd to see those old videos showing Soviet Russians, Tatars, Kazahks, Uzbeks, Jews etc. working together for the good of the Motherland, and now ultranationalist skinheads roam the streets.

May the Russian Antifa slay many a Nazi, as their forefathers did in WWII. If my family still lived there, I know how I'd honour the struggle of my Red Army ancestors...
Post 31 Mar 2007, 07:10
Comrade kalashnikov,

It isn't Russia alone which has been "liberated" from the "Evil" commies and socialists....let's take Iraq for example...Iraq has "Democracy" now and the people are "Free"...earlier on Saddam was a dictator because only he could kill people and the common folk couldn't. Now the people are "free" to kill each other and hence there is "democracy" and freedom...now that explains the number of civilian deaths in Iraq nowadays...

What if the Iraqi people dont have free education, health access, subsidized electricity, security from crime and hatred-incited attacks...atleast they are "Free" and have been "liberated"
Post 31 Mar 2007, 07:30
You are correct, Indo-Soviet.

It seems that being "liberated" by America is the worst thing that could ever happen to a country.
Post 31 Mar 2007, 08:05
I'm not sure France would agree with that statement 100%...
Post 31 Mar 2007, 08:56
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I'm not sure France would agree with that statement 100%...


That's the only positive example I could think of. Though Britain and the Commonwealth played vital roles in that.

I was thinking more along the lines of Afghanistan after the US-sponsored Taliban came to power or Iraq today.
Post 31 Mar 2007, 14:50
France would have been a dictatorship of the proletariat freed from the Nazis by the Soviet Union (and indigenous communists resistance fighters) by about 1946 anyways...
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