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I will vote for

Obama
1
5%
Romney
2
10%
Someone else
10
50%
Don't know
0
No votes
Won't even vote
7
35%
 
Total votes : 20
Loz
Post 06 Nov 2012, 02:56
For Americans here, who are you voting for in the pres. elections?
Post 06 Nov 2012, 05:23
Won't even vote. Oklahoma is going to Romney regardless and besides there is no difference between the two. Even less than between Clinton and Bush.
Post 06 Nov 2012, 07:24
Not citizen, can't vote. Won't become citizen since that would imply a degree of consent that I do not provide.
My wife is voting for Obama though.
Post 06 Nov 2012, 21:18
How can you be Amercian but not citizen?
Post 06 Nov 2012, 21:39
OP-Bagration wrote:
How can you be Amercian but not citizen?


I'm Danish. I've just been visiting here for the past 10 years
Post 06 Nov 2012, 23:19
Dagoth Ur wrote:
Won't even vote. Oklahoma is going to Romney regardless and besides there is no difference between the two. Even less than between Clinton and Bush.

Only a fifth of the country will decide the outcome of the Presidential election, which shows that the electoral process is a sham at the surface as well as when deep analysis is applied to it.
Post 07 Nov 2012, 00:01
Voted for the PSL. I only voted to avoid that, "If you didn't vote, you have no right to complain thing." Voted Republican against the Democrat incumbent for the House cause he's a corrupt bastard. Other than that, everything else had only one candidate belonging to the Democrats.
Post 07 Nov 2012, 00:03
Soviet192491 wrote:
Voted for the PSL. I only voted to avoid that, "If you didn't vote, you have no right to complain thing." Voted Republican against the Democrat incumbent for the House cause he's a corrupt bastard. Other than that, everything else had only one candidate belonging to the Democrats.


George Carlin had it right, I think

"It's not my fault, I didn't vote for either of those assholes"
Post 07 Nov 2012, 01:10
cant vote in american elections since i'm not american, but i did downvote obama's personal account on reddit today if that counts.
Post 07 Nov 2012, 01:57
I voted for the PSL for the Presidency, they were the only socialist party on the ballot, though the voting officials got their candidates' names wrong. I voted for some Greens and some Justice Party candidates for other offices; and it was mostly Democrats for local offices (only choice other than Republicans), though here they're even less different from the Republicans. So mostly capitalists (it's the USA, what do you expect), but I tried to find some centrists or social democrats at that.
Post 07 Nov 2012, 05:13
Voted for the PSL.

Locally I voted for the candidates my union supported.
Post 07 Nov 2012, 05:50
People that vote democrat are more likely to be turned towards socialism than people who vote republican, so there's that.
Post 07 Nov 2012, 20:26
No they aren't. There are many confused socialists who think left liberalism is the only viable political movement in their ranks but left liberals join with fascists against us. We have to shatter the illusion of liberalism to those workers in both parties (because there are many confused socialist republicans too) to ever have a chance. Most left-liberals are fuсking pacifists who would be happier allowing HUAC than joining revolution. It's just like social-democrats, we need them to bulk us out but we have to remember they're just waiting to take power for their own ends.
Post 07 Nov 2012, 21:35
Dagoth Ur wrote:
Most left-liberals are fuсking pacifists who would be happier allowing HUAC than joining revolution. It's just like social-democrats, we need them to bulk us out but we have to remember they're just waiting to take power for their own ends.


Left liberals are social democrats. The interpretation of what is left and what is right in America has been redefined.

Socialism is as far left as you can get, and what defines a socialist in America is now, "Hey let's be like Sweden!" The real definition and ideal of Communism is unknown or misinterpreted, either as a radical element of the left, or defined by a moderate as a "form of government where there is no government."
Post 08 Nov 2012, 04:06
runequester wrote:
People that vote democrat are more likely to be turned towards socialism than people who vote republican, so there's that.


Talk to folks in the labour movement such as organizers or active shop stewards. They are the most class conscious people out there but the biggest die hard Democrats I've ever meet. Take the rally in Philadelphia in the summer of 2012. The policies labour unions were promoting ranged from progressive to outright socialist ideas. The point of the rally was to fire up workers for the elections. None of these ideas promoted at the rally were talked about in the elections and if they were, they were discussed in any depth.

Partially being a devils advocate here and partially speculating about the future. Republicans tend to support capitalism for what it is. Democrats realize the flaws that exist within the system and see the need for regulating capitalism to preserve capitalism. Wouldn't it make sense that in a time of crisis that Republicans would abandon the system that they supported; whereas, Democrats would stick to their guns promoting reforming capitalism?
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