Quote:WHat I wanted to say, comrade, is that with all of the above, the left is impotent because there is no clear vision on their part about how they will help the little man get out of this vicious circle of life in which we all are right now. What do you think?
Quote:Comrade, if this prophecy comes true, this video will be interesting again http://bit.ly/syvW1x.
Moris wrote:i'm in favour of reducing bureaucracy and improving health institutions but not at the cost of social state which i believe virant is not in favour of.
Moris wrote:my uncle is an economist and he believes virant's reforms in previous government were very inefficient which is another reason i dont support him.
Moris wrote:i dont really believe slovenes are capable of staging a state-wide rebellion. hell, we're not even capable of staging a real occupy borza rally
Quote:What did he say or put in his programme that makes you believe that his option is not for a social state? I'm definitely not for a social state as leftist Hanžek portrays (because it cannot happen). As I understood Virant, he wants the public servants to primarily serve the public, so economy can function. He was the only one using that phrase ("government institutions have to provide service for the people").
Quote:Not really sure which inefficiencies you're talking about. I think that compared to pre-Virant period, the public administration is now working much more efficient (not efficient enough, of course). Janković's successes in Ljubljana are made even more significant because previous mayors were so lousy (Potočnik, Simčič, Rupel). Do you see the connection?:)
Quote:Oh, don't let me get on a rant there Borza rally was a proof that those guys were truly misguided - what the hell were they thinking they could achieve in front of an institution which is not responsible for anything that happened to the little man in Slovenia? The largest tycoon in Slovenia is the state itself, unfortunately. They should've gone in front of the parliament or NLB or KAD or SOD - those are the ones making people lose their jobs on a daily basis.
Moris wrote:well, virant is a classical liberal and he never quite denied that. i dont think there is a single party which wouldnt want to improve public sector and economy but not every party will tell you how exactly they plan to do that.
Moris wrote:my uncle claims most of his public sector wages reforms were harmful for the economy and well-being of the country. there were some protests against reforms werent there?
Moris wrote:just heard today on radio that stadium he built brought a nice profit to city's treasury this year.
Moris wrote:exactly. what was the point of it? if they cant organize a proper rally dont organize one at all. at least move in front of the parliament or somewhere.
Quote:I'm not sure what you mean by classical liberal. LDS (Liberal Democracy of Slovenia) is a classical liberal party, isn't it? If it is not, then they ought to have changed the name. According to names in Slovenian politics, Virant would be more of a social democrat.
Quote:You probably remember that Janša gave Virant a direct order to give in when negotiating with unions. The biggest obstacle to Slovenia's advancement are actually unions, undermining every single effort to move Slovenia from status quo.
Moris wrote:well russian styled shock therapies wont exactly help us get anywhere. though i must admit they are over reacting at times. LDS under drnovšek did a good job avoiding these kind of shock therapies. if they hadnt we'd probably be as bad as hungary or croatia right now.
Moris wrote:i dont really watch tv anymore but yeah, funny how NSi always manages to appear in media. RTVSLO basically became RTVSDS a long time ago. if you check their website you wont find anything besides praises of SDS and criticism of everyone else.
Moris wrote:looks like he did quite a job as a director. i havent found a single article on their website that would be at least remotely objective. i wish it were possible to cancel RTV subscription. damn useless channel nobody watches with lousy movies.
Moris wrote:i've been, yes. looks to me that janshists will get most votes but wont be able to form a stable coalition. i doubt SLS will join them this time and virant seems to be more keen on going into coalition with zoko and SD. as much as i hate that neoliberal prick i still prefer to see him in a centre-left coalition, i dont want to even think what will happen if janša takes over again
Quote:I think Janša will be able to get 50+ (with other parties) for sure, even though I'm not endorsing him at all. I was really happy to hear Virant (is he the neoliberal prick you talked about?) say the conditions to enter a coalition with Janša (you know, no brooding over 30 years old affairs, no counting of dead after WW2 etc.).
Moris wrote:i doubt SDS, SLS, Nsi and even desus will have enough seats to form a government. zoko, SD and virant seem to be doing fine enough and could form a relatively stable coalition. at least that's what i'm hoping for. i doubt Nsi will make it to the parliament even with strong backing of catholiban church.
Moris wrote:let's wait and see... informal support is better than a loose coalition like we had so far. personally i'd prefer a national unity coalition of PS, LGV, SD, SLS and DESUS even if that means less ministries for PS. nothing will hurt reactionaries more than an united coalition of parties from both spectrums.
Quote:Of all the above mentioned parties, it seems only PS and LGV are serious whereas others mind their own interests. Yes, even SD. They obviously want to extort as much as they can from Janković. It seems as if Pahor is trying to "get back" to Janković for all of his (Pahor's) trials and tribulations during the past three years (for which Janković had nothing to do). Pahor must be really constipated and frustrated right now and he can't wait to pronounce sometime in the near future "you see how hard it is to manage a coalition in which everyone is pulling to his own side?". Really pathetic - i think he's showing his true colours now.
Quote:We probably both agree that DeSUS is a total joke with Kahrhl Ehrjavec - he'll never be serious enough to stick to the coalition's goals/guns. SLS was a Trojan horse during the Rop government and I personally cannot forget the fact that SLS is actually a party of the Podobnik brothers (brat Podpoštenjak;)).
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