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Post 03 Oct 2012, 05:26
I have some various questions I haven't been able to find answers to:
Is communism a political and/or economic system?

Are there stages that happen before a communistic system happens? Does the political and/or economic system have to pass through a socialistic phase? Do reforms happen or do violent overthrow of the government have to happen? What is the difference between reform and anti reform?

Will the workers and other people know or recognize it that we are living in a socialistic or communistic system? For example, I live in a workers paradise rather than I live in a communist system or I live in a place where capitalistic exploit the people rather than I live in a capitalist economic system? Is it necessary for the people to know and understand the political system they are living in?

Was there and will there be much thieves, criminals and pirates in a communistic system?

I have heard rumors that the Soviet Union was not a completely true communistic system, if this is true, what parts were not communistic?

Will asking questions about a communistic political/economic systems put me on some list? Is it against the law to ask questions about socialistic or communistic systems? Does asking questions about communistic systems self incriminate me by implying my political affiliation? Does asking questions about communism make me a communist?

Does the clever use of language depend on whether the people will accept communistic system?
Post 04 Oct 2012, 16:22
silvermaster wrote:
I have some various questions I haven't been able to find answers to:
Is communism a political and/or economic system?


Others will give a much bigger answer but at it's absolute basic, under communism the productive forces (land, factories etc) are owned by everyone, rather than owned privately. A lot of things follow from that, but that's the most basic definition I can think of.

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Are there stages that happen before a communistic system happens? Does the political and/or economic system have to pass through a socialistic phase? Do reforms happen or do violent overthrow of the government have to happen? What is the difference between reform and anti reform?


There's a lot of different theories here. Some believe only revolt (violent or non-violent) will work, others believe you can reform your way there.
In common verbage, "socialism" is the period of "lower communism", where you have a mix of capitalism and communism, as the system transitions. I don't know if this is strictly required but it's often assumed.

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Will the workers and other people know or recognize it that we are living in a socialistic or communistic system? For example, I live in a workers paradise rather than I live in a communist system or I live in a place where capitalistic exploit the people rather than I live in a capitalist economic system? Is it necessary for the people to know and understand the political system they are living in?


Under capitalism, we must educate people as to why the system is not serving their best interests. Many people are intrinsically opposed to communism, because of propaganda and their ideas of what it looks like. Hence, they elect to have bosses and wage labour, rather than running their own lives.

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Was there and will there be much thieves, criminals and pirates in a communistic system?

There's always crime, as you always have people who won't fit in. With the existential needs taken care of (housing, food, employment, education, medical), there's less of a drive though.

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I have heard rumors that the Soviet Union was not a completely true communistic system, if this is true, what parts were not communistic?

The USSR achieved many things, but it still had wage labour, it still had a state (and the ensuing bureacracy) for example. Some (Trotskyists) argue it was really "state capitalist".

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Will asking questions about a communistic political/economic systems put me on some list? Is it against the law to ask questions about socialistic or communistic systems? Does asking questions about communistic systems self incriminate me by implying my political affiliation? Does asking questions about communism make me a communist?


Asking questions doesn't do anything. In present US society, stating yourself as a communist can have consequences, but it's not illegal. An employer may well fire you if they think you are likely to start a union at your job, f.x.

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Does the clever use of language depend on whether the people will accept communistic system?


Not sure what you mean here.
Post 04 Oct 2012, 22:22
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Are there stages that happen before a communistic system happens? Does the political and/or economic system have to pass through a socialistic phase? Do reforms happen or do violent overthrow of the government have to happen? What is the difference between reform and anti reform?


The orthodox theoretical model is the violent overthrow of the capitalist order by the proletariat and the introduction of socialism. This still retains classes and therefore a state. Once the remnants of the capitalist class have withered away, there is no longer a need for the state so that too will withere away. Once the state is gone, you have communism which is both classless and stateless.

I don't understand what you mean by reform and anti-reform. If you mean, "can we reform capitalism to socialism?" I think this is unlikely because the capitalists will eventually put their feet down and say enough is enough. They won't voluntarily give their privileges away.

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Will the workers and other people know or recognize it that we are living in a socialistic or communistic system? For example, I live in a workers paradise rather than I live in a communist system or I live in a place where capitalistic exploit the people rather than I live in a capitalist economic system? Is it necessary for the people to know and understand the political system they are living in?


Maybe those you lived in pre-communist times. As I said, the state is supposed to wither away so how people initially view it is entirely subjective. Once generations have grown up under communism, they will probably struggle to conceive of anything else, just like we struggle to conceive of living under feudalism.

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Was there and will there be much thieves, criminals and pirates in a communistic system?


There will be no thievery because there will be no private property. There will be personal property (your clothes, phone, etc) but the system whereby people acquire goods is they just take what they need for free. They won't take anything more because they have no need for it. I know this might sound odd but think about it. Why would you take 12 cars when you only need 1? If you take 12 you would struggle to maintain them all and find places to keep them. Also, unlike today, no-one would be impressed that you had 12 cars because anyone could go and take 12 cars. This way, no-one will try and mug you for your iPhone because if someone wants an iPhone, they'll just go and take one from a distribution centre.

There will probably be a few murders though (but obviously, not over property). These may come about from drunken fights, mental illnesses, or rare instances of personal hatred. I would like to think that popular courts are retained to deal with things like this (as well as rape et al).

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I have heard rumors that the Soviet Union was not a completely true communistic system, if this is true, what parts were not communistic?


It wasn't even fully socialist. It had a ruling caste made up of party members who were the privileged elite. The workers never ruled in the USSR.

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Will asking questions about a communistic political/economic systems put me on some list? Is it against the law to ask questions about socialistic or communistic systems? Does asking questions about communistic systems self incriminate me by implying my political affiliation? Does asking questions about communism make me a communist?


Do you mean now or under a communist society?

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Does the clever use of language depend on whether the people will accept communistic system?


I doubt it.
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